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kittens 2211
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"Lawless"
 
   I have enjoyed the Long Tall Texas series. I have,however, a problem with the male characters in some of the books. In the book. LAWLESS, the male character does not have any moral character. He hurts his wife by deliberately hurting her as in, forgetting her 21st birthday and carries her mortal enemy to a party at his office. Also, he protect this same enemy by kissing her instead of handing the problem as Cash Greir does. I was sooooo disappointed in this lack of character on Judd's part.

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Evangeline
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1. "RE: Lawless"
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   I agree on that. I think Lawless (like Heartbreaker and Fearless) has the most mean male character in all the LTT Series. Judd Dunn is thoughtless and totaly stupid in my opinion. I was really dissapointed especially in this book, cause the plot is actually good but apparently not enough to make this book top.
But then we see in Renegade how male a male character can be. From all the DP males Cash is my absolute favorite one!


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Cath B
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2. "RE: Lawless"
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   I think like everyone else... Judd was one (JB Hammock, Heartbreaker takes some beating) of the worst characters that DP wrote... I did think he redeemed himself a little... he wasn't unfaithful during the 5 years of marriage to Christabel (I've read a few books where the characters have "marriage of convenience" but the men "forget" their vows.... don't care much for their characters)...
But Judd did stay the distance.... that's why Lawless is probably my Favourite DP book.

Cath.

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Alliebal
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375 posts		 Sep-20-08, 03:22 AM (EST)
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3. "RE: Lawless"
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Alliebal uk
Lawless is my altime favorite book, and Judd 1 of my favorite men. I did want to hit him on more than 1 occasion but I felt he had tried to protect Chrissy from her possiable feelings of gratiuted, he did keep his marriage vows for over 5 years and the birthday was thoughtless not mean and nasty.
I guess you can tell Judd is a favorite uh?
My anger score rises to the top with JB Hammock in Heartbreaker
}> }> }> }> he is just down right mean and nasty he mad me so mad and there seemed no good reason for him too be like that}> }> I really think Tellie gave in too easily and sould have made him work a lot lot harder to win her over
Mandy}>


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Cath B
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4. "RE: Lawless"
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   Hear Hear Mandy... JB for a good slapping!

Cath.

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shelle812
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13 posts		 Sep-24-08, 01:06 PM (EST)
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5. "RE: Lawless"
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   LAST EDITED ON Sep-24-08 AT 01:07 PM (EST)
 
SO TRUE!!


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Letty
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6. "RE: Lawless"
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   I have to agree with you Mandy...I love Lawless and eventhough Judd made me mad I forgave him. Well I can't say the samething for JD but the one that still takes the cake with me is Rodrigo. I had such high hope for him and boy he let me down. When I was reading his story Danny(my hubby)would not come around me. I was in what he calls "Hate all male mode".

Letty


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PeggyRieger
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7. "RE: Lawless"
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Judd may be a silly male, but he was faithfull to his vows. To me King not only seduced Amelia but put her in peril by telling her father who almost beat her to death even tho he knew she was pure. That was low down and ugly.. PAR


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chantal3659
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8. "RE: Lawless"
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   this was one of my favorites I have re-read many times. I will agree that judd was pretty horible at times but it made book even better when things worked out.


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sheilascarbroug
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9. "RE: Lawless"
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I agree with the King and Amelia story-someone should have taken a whip to his hide!!
Sheila
But, honey I would love to meet a "real" man like Cash-now his desciption makes me go "GRRR"

Sheila


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jenny71
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32. "RE: Lawless"
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   Once again, I totally agree with the majority of readers.... Judd DUNN disappointed me the most by buying that stupid ring for 'Tippy", when he knew he couldnt afford it !!! Up to that point I had thought him a tough but fair character, then wow.....
BUT I also agree that my all time favorite character has to be CASH GRIER.....he is simply the best!!!


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tammy1028
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10. "RE: Lawless"
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I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU QUITE A FEW OF HER MALE CHARACTERS MISTREAT THE WOMEN THEY LOVE BECAUSE THEY ARE TO AFRAID TO LET THERE FEELINGS SHOW, I LOVED THE BOOK LAWLESS BUT IT TOOK ME AWHILE TO WARM UP TO JUDD...CASH WAS COOL THOUGH...TAMMY...

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1Jacobsvillefan
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11. "RE: Lawless"
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I don't know, they have some redeeming qualities. Even Judd and as infuriating as JB is he does as well. At least they ended right.


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lidia
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12. "RE: Lawless"
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   Quite a few of DPs characters are mean to the heroines. What made it difficult for me to accept in Judd's case was the fact that I had such high hopes for him. When we met him in "Lord of the Desert" I thought now here is a character that I can't wait to read about.

In his book, Judd was not only mean and thoughtless it actually seemed that he was "stupid." I am sure that is not what DP meant -- but it just seemed to me that he was portrayed as "stupid."

Aside from what was already mentioned by others, he bought an expensive ring for another woman, but totally forgot to get Chrissy anything. Then, after re-selling the ring, he bought Chrissy a wedding band with that money and actually told Chrissy where the money came from. How much more "stupid" can you get? I can't imagine anyone wanting their wedding ring to be paid for by a ring that was meant for another woman -- just plain YUCKY!

Once he and Chrissy started sleeping together he could have helped the "other woman" in different ways -- he didn't need to kiss her to protect her.

And the worse thing was that he left Chrissy - close to her due date to travel cross country to the movie premier. Sorry, but that is another act of "stupidity." Everyone knows that babies can come early. Anyway, much I was looking forward to Judd's book by the end I wanted Chrissy to end up with Cash.

In my eyes, Judd was never fully redeemed.


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sheilascarbroug
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13. "RE: Lawless"
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I think I found more fault with Chrissy's behavior than I did with Judd's. Judd was just thoughtless as a lot of men are-but to me Chrissy was leading Cash on-and don't forget she had already kissed Cash on purpose, knowing she was married and even after being told that Cash liked her as more than a friend she still led him on by going out with him. And I was a little aggravated at Cash as well-for such an honorable man he knew she was married and should not have taken her out let alone kissed her. I have strong ideas about marriage and fidelity-as I'm sure all the women on this board do.

Sheila


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Alliebal
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14. "RE: Lawless"
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Alliebal uk
As far as I can remember and I have read both books LOTS !!!!!! Judd does not appear in Lord of The Desert so I am not sure who you are thinking of Lidia but it an't my man Judd
Mandy


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sheilascarbroug
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15. "RE: Lawless"
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Judd does appear in Lord of the Desert. When she comes back to the states to the family ranch Judd visists her a couple of times. Remember "Elvis" told Philippe about her visitor and he insinuated that Judd had fathered her child?

Sheila


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Cath B
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16. "RE: Lawless"
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   LAST EDITED ON Oct-14-08 AT 05:42 PM (EST)
 
Judd is friends with Mark Brannon (Gretchens brother) they are shooting buddies, Judd visits Gretchen when she returns to "the states" ....... I love the fact that Lawless (my totally favourite LTT) causes soooo much emotion... I wonder if Diana realises this?

Cath.

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lidia
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17. "RE: Lawless"
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   LAST EDITED ON Oct-14-08 AT 10:25 PM (EST)
 
Yes, Judd visited Gretchen when she went back to the states, before she found out she was pregnant. I liked his character right off the bet. He noticed that "Elvis" seemed to understand what was said, but didn't say anything to Gretchen. I couldn't wait to read his book.

It is probably my own fault, but I built him up in my mind and then was thoroughly disappointed by his actions.

As for Cash and Chrissy 'kissing.' I am sure that neither one was thinking of infidelity. Cash felt bad for Chrissy and for the way that Judd was treating her. He was a good friend to her and knew that it would go no further. Judd on the other hand, was going out with Tippy and bought her an expensive ring. You cannot compare the 'kiss' between Chrissy and Cash and that. Why was it alright for Judd to go out with Tippy but it was not OK for Chrissy to go out with Cash? That's the old double standard and I don't care for that at all.

I don't understand how anyone can condone a married man buying an expensive gift for another woman. If you think that Chrissy was more in the wrong you truly don't have your priorities right. I'd like to see you say OK if you found out that your husband bought a ring for someone else. I would rather hear that he kissed a friend.


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sheilascarbroug
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18. "RE: Lawless"
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I don't think either one of them seeing someone else while legally married is ok. But, what I am saying is that Judd was only seeing Tippy for her protection-and ues he let her rile i=his pride into buying her the ring-he did not do it for any other reason other than to save his pride. What I'm saying about Chrissy and Cash is that they were going out for reasons other than protection from harrassment. Under no circumstances should they have been kissing each other-plus remember that Chrissy toyed with the idea in her mind to go to Cash after she and Judd divorced-Judd never entertained those thoughts with Tippy. But under no circumstances do I condone infidelity-a kiss with someone else when you're married is WRONG. And by th way my husband bought his woman a truck while we were very much married-so yeah, I think I can safely say I can empathize with Chrissy.

Sheila


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lidia
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19. "RE: Lawless"
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   LAST EDITED ON Oct-15-08 AT 12:50 PM (EST)
 
You need to re-read the book. At first Judd was not going around with Tippy for her protection. He took her out because he enjoyed it -- especially when he took her to that party and missed Chrissy's birthday. The other guys wanted to meet the movie star and he felt special having her as his date. That had nothing to do with protection.

And as for his pride, that totally does not excuse buying an expensive gift.

Both Chrissy and Judd made some mistakes -- Judd's were the worst. He kept saying how he didn't want to stay married to Chrissy but yet he didn't want her to be with anyone else either.

A kiss is wrong -- but personally I would accept that sooner than expensive gifts. Expensive gifts usually mean some type of involvement where as a kiss can be more 'innocent.'

And you're right -- infidelity does not belong in any marriage. That is my pet peeve about many Harlequin Presents. The Heroes
sleep around when the couple his separated for a short while. The heroine of course, stays true. I usually want the heroine to dump the so called Hero and find herself someone else.


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sheilascarbroug
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20. "RE: Lawless"
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I know what the book says-but al;l along all Judd sees Tippy for is her protectoin-he took her to the party because someone asked him too. No where does he take her out on a romantic date like Cash and Chrissy do. And again let me remind you what a powerful incentive a man's pride is- Tippy asked him to buy the ring-he did not offer-rather let his pride get hurt he bought it. He did not buy it because he felt something for her. On the other hand Cash wined and dined Chrissy. She loved Judd but she entertained thoughts of a relationship with another man. If I loved my husband-there is no way on God's green earth that I would go out with another man-espcially one I knew had feelings for me. I think you have to remember that Judd did not forget a birthday or Christmas present for Chrissy-he just forgot to brings it with hime because of the shooting. We can talk all day on the subject-and disagree-but both Judd and Chrissy were wrong-neither one is more guilty than the other. We are the ones putting "degrees" to their "sins"(so to speak).

Sheila


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lidia
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21. "RE: Lawless"
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   Judd did forget to buy a birthday and Christmas present. He finally bought something after Tippy returned the ring (that was long after Chrissy's birthday and Christmas). He felt guilty when he got his present from Chrissy because at that point he had not purchased anything for Chrissy.

Cash took Chrissy out for her birthday because Judd didn't and he didn't want her spending her birthday alone -- a nice thing to do on his part. He didn't do it to be romantic but so that she wouldn't feel abandoned on her birthday. Judd didn't even bother to wish her a happy birthday -- he just took Tippy to the party (the fact that the guys wanted to meet her does not excuse him).

After Chrissy and Judd's marriage 'became real' he had no business continuing to act like he had something going with Tippy (real or not). Chrissy didn't know that it was make believe, Judd never bothered to explain it to her. Quite frankly, she slept with Judd even though she thought that Judd had been carrying on with Tippy. She assumed that was 'over.' The fact that it wasn't real and wasn't 'over' yet because the other guy was still chasing Tippy wasn't something that was every told to her. The better way to deal with a bully was the way Cash handled it.

Cash knew that Chrissy was in love with Judd and he "didn't cross the line." That was why he told Judd about Chrissy being pregnant. He knew how much she loved Judd and wanted to be with him.

As for Chrissy thinking about being with Cash, that was her 'pride' talking. Judd didn't want her but here was someone who cared about her and she was 'good enough for him.' If you are OK with Judd's pride making him buy Tippy the ring, then you should be OK with Chrissy's pride making her enjoy being taken care of by Cash -- no difference.

At no point in time did Judd ever put Chrissy or her needs first. It was always what he wanted, what Tippy wanted, nothing to do with what Chrissy wanted or needed.

I have been reading DP books for many, many years -- one of my first was "The Rawhide Man." Again, I think that I am more harsh on Judd because I was really looking forward to his book and couldn't wait to read it.

Even in the epilogue Judd was inconsiderate. He went cross country to Tippy's premier when Chrissy was due in a few weeks -- not very considerate.

You're right, we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. You won't convince me to think like you do and I won't convince you to think the way that I do.

We are all entitled to our opinions. I don't think that anyone is completely right or wrong. It just a matter of what we like, what we will tolerate in the Heroes and heroines, etc...



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sheilascarbroug
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22. "RE: Lawless"
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I do not in anyway agree with either one of them being with some one else while legally married to another. But that is the storyline she chose to write. Judd had Chrissy's gift bought before he bought Tippy's ring-let's remember he did so due to pride not for romanitc reasons. No matter what, neither should have kissed anyone else. Again Chrissy's motives were different from Judd's-Chrissy wanted to know what it was like to kiss Cash. Either way it is wrong-they were both in the wrong so one can''t be anymore wrong than the other, but, I do feel Judd's was more innocent and nobler a reason for what he did-but let's just face it HE was just plain stupid not to tell his wife why he was doing it-and not handling it the way Cash did.

Sheila


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lidia
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23. "RE: Lawless"
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   I have to laugh because I agree with you that Judd was "stupid." He was "stupid" for carrying on with another woman, he was "stupid" for not even bothering to wish Chrissy a Happy Birthday, he was "stupid" for buying Tippy an expensive ring, he was "stupid" for not explaining things to Chrissy - especially after they had a "real" marriage, he was "stupid" for leaving her alone after they got back from their business trip and he was "stupid" for leaving her and going to Tippy's premiere. I honestly didn't think that his character would be "so stupid."


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sheilascarbroug
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24. "RE: Lawless"
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LAST EDITED ON Oct-16-08 AT 10:25 PM (EST)
 
You have to admit men are stupid, they do not think how things will effect the woman in their lives. They do not think as you and I do-but what is Chrissy's excuse? SHe was wrong also. Chrissy is no less to blame than Judd is. They were equally wrong to spend time with someone of the opposite sex when they were married-no matter what reason you pin on it-it leads to feelings and situations that can become adulterous.

Sheila


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lidia
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25. "RE: Lawless"
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   Actually I believe that people of opposite sex can be friends. Cash was a friend to Chrissy -- he didn't want anything romantic with her and didn't make any demands. Chrissy didn't have friends. She worked hard on the ranch and that didn't leave her time to make friends. Cash was a friend. He was there for her when she didn't have anyone else.

The whole situation was Judd's fault. He could have prevented the misunderstandings.

Anyway, if everything was fine -- there would have been no story. The conflict was needed -- I just don't have to like his actions.

I know plenty of my friends who have gone out to dinner with a friend of the opposite sex. Nothing adulterous and doesn't lead to anything. Both parties spouses know about it. When one was out of town on business and the other was visiting a parent in the same town, the two met for dinner. Nothing wrong with that. Not everything is black and white. Nobody thought that they were having an affair, no rumors were spread, nothing.

As I said before, you and I will just have to agree to disagree.


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sheilascarbroug
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26. "RE: Lawless"
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I have to beg to differ about Cash-he did have feelings for Chrissy as mentioned more than once. But you can't excuse Chrissy's actions either. She was not totally blameless. Judd sees her with Cash and that makes him dig in his heels even more-and makes him not want to come clean. It takes two to make a marriage work-she was childish in some ways (if Judd doesn't want me Cash does-even her housekeeper warned her about leading Cash on). But as I said they were both wrong. Going out to eat with a friend is okay-but not sharing a kiss to see if it affects you like your husband's does -that is not appropriate. Again I do not condone his or her behavior-I think both were equally wrong. So I will try my best not to add any more comments and let't put this to rest. (I had that bit from my ex-husband about we're just friends-referring to the woman he was seeing while we were married-yeah-so what was her lingerie doing in our bedroom??). But I do know that people of the opposit sex can be friends-but not to the exclusion that they are spending more time with that person than their spouse.
But I appreciate the opprtunity to voice a differing opinion.

Sheila


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Alliebal
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27. "RE: Lawless"
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Michele J
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28. "RE: Lawless"
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I wish our regular book discussions were this good.

Mimi


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29. "RE: Lawless"
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   He was introduced not as a character but as being mentioned by Gretchen

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lidia
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30. "RE: Lawless"
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   He was a character (a "small" part). He visited Gretchen when she came home. They talked about her brother, etc... Phillippe even told Gretchen that Judd could be the father of her baby.


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Angelgirl
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31. "RE: Lawless"
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U guys r so funny i had a husband that went out on me also real life!!! book just for fun!!!!


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" Be very careful if you make a woman cry, because God count's her tears.The woman came out of a man's rib. Not from his feet to be walked on.Not from his head to be superior,but from the side to be protected,and next to the heart to be loved.


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33. "RE: Lawless"
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   Judd made me sooooo mad at times, I think men are stupid in some ways. But Tippy acted like such a }> I loved Christabel's character. But give me a Cash anyday! Holy cow


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1Jacobsvillefan
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34. "RE: Lawless"
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It wasn't really his fault he had conflicting feelings for Crissy. His father was a minister so I can understand why he acts the way he did. Considering the way his mother carried on her affair. It really damaged his way of thinking where women were concerned.But alas as in all DP's stories things worked out for the best.


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1Jacobsvillefan
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35. "RE: Lawless"
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You have to realize that the reason Judd did what he did with Tippy was because she needed him to help her ward off the assistant director who was hounding her. She felt safe with him because of his job in law enforcement. Although, I agree he should have told her he was married to Crissy eventhough it was Quote"Only on paper". He should have been alot more sensitive to her feelings. He made a mistake in not doing so. But what about her carrying on with Cash? So I guess you could say they were both wrong. Nevertheless, things worked out in the end despite the fact that Crissy nearly died risking her life for Judd. But like I said, you have to remember the circumstances behind it all.


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ashleyep
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36. "RE: Lawless"
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Despite Judd's rude behavior throughout the book, I'd still take him, hang-ups and all. As I believe Tess Hart says in Winter Roses, "Judd Dunn makes my mouth water." Ah, now I have go to reread Lawless for like the tenth time.

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